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Sunday, October 10, 2010

That's so gay.

So today I had a rather interesting conversation with a friend of mine today about the topic of the legalization of gay marriage. I thought I would share my argument and get some opinions from the world of blogs.

My argument was composed as such:
Being gay is not a choice, it is an innate characteristic.
Not allowing gays to marry is discriminating against them due to something they cannot change.
Therefore, gay marriage should be legal.


More in depth:
Being gay is not a choice. Arguing otherwise, frankly, is ignorant. I know far too many gay people who have told me so that to believe otherwise is ridiculous, and for those who still do not agree (I assume the aforementioned people are not gay), did you choose to be straight? Did you simply wake up one morning and decide you like the opposite sex? Or was that just always how it had been? Exactly.
Not allowing gays to marry is discriminating against them due to something they cannot change. In the 1960's, this same argument was going on about whether black people could marry white people or not. Now, we look back and most of the population sees this as an issue that pretty much everyone is on one side of, after the prejudices have been (for the most part) broken down. Many people argue that the Bible says that being gay is immoral. I believe this argument, firstly, should not be valid in this issue because our founding fathers held the belief that there should be a separation of church and state to limit religious persecution by the government. Using the Bible as a reason to make a law banning gay marriage is obviously a breach of this value. However, even if we DO accept this as valid, then there's still the issue of blatant hypocrisy. In Leviticus, the book of the bible that holds the quote (paraphrased) "one man shall not lie with another," there are also many other stipulations that prohibit things like shaving, doing ANY work on Sunday, and even associating with women who are menstruating. Picking an obscure verse out of the Old Testament and saying it should be responsible for a law and that all Christians (who use the New Testament mainly, anyway) should abide by it whilst ignoring the other stipulations in the same book is absolutely ridiculous, making it quite obvious that people are simply using the Bible to forward their prejudices. Wake up, religion was never meant to be an excuse to hate people without cause, especially Christianity, which preaches "let he who is without sin cast the first stone," "love thy neighbor," and in general, compassion for all people.
For these reasons, I believe it to be quite obvious that gay marriage should be legal. Paragraphs of logic are one thing, but I believe Wanda Sykes sums it up pretty easily: "If you have a problem with same-sex marriage, don't marry someone of the same sex."

37 comments:

  1. Yeah my buddy Bill is gay and he says vaginas scare him

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  2. I don't really care if gay people get married or not. It's not really my business or problem.

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  3. Yea. I believe to each their own

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  4. I dont care either, as long as they dont try to seduce me.

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  5. Goes to show how progressive we are here in the US. Logic should govern not religion.

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  6. The only way I'd think gay marriage would be a problem is in relation to citizenship, since if you get married you automatically become a citizen of the u.s.

    so anyone would be able to get married and become a citizen. but other than that who cares, let em tie the knot.

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  7. I agree with Sram above. well said.

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  8. I think the general internet consensus is that most people don't care whether or not gay people get married.

    I still don't care.. and honestly the argument is tiring. It's like arguing pro-choice or legalizing marijuana.. There's this brick wall that won't listen to logic.

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  9. i dont really care about gays.. it is not my business

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  10. I agree that gay marriage should be allowed. Let them do whatever they want, but I have read research papers that basically prove homosexuality is not genetic.

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  11. im fine with i mean if they're happy im happy XD

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  12. I completely agree. Why not letting gay people marry each other? In 20 years it will be as common as women voting.

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  13. i agree with what you're saying. wish more people thought this way.

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  14. In all honesty, I don't see the problem with same sex marriages. Love is love, regardless of gender.

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  15. I completely agree with you, as do most young people. Its the older generation who is against this, and I think within a few years the laws concerning gay marriage, just like weeeeed, will be changed

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  16. I don't see what the big deal is gay/straight if you're happy let them get married. I agree with you there is no way it's a choice. I couldn't choose to like penis I love breasts too much.

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  17. I'm with Joe.

    Happiness should not be legalized. They're being gay together, they should be together.

    As long as no one's getting hurt.

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  18. I see no problem at all with gay marriage. I think it's a bit sad that in 2010 they still don't have the right to be a couple in the eyes of the law.

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  19. I do agree that gay marriage should be up to them.
    But your argument wasn't a good one and I'll explain why. Simply because they don't have a choice doesn't validate their right to marry.
    Serial killers and insane people literally have no choice but to kill. :)
    The first and foremost argument is that they're consenting adults, not harming anyone by doing it.
    ( I totally agree that it's not a choice though, and that's a good argument - just mention the serial killer thing hehe)

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  20. for me it just come down to, is this my business? no. Does this hurt me in any way? no. so go marry you best bud its all cool

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  21. You should take a moment to read through the Prop 8 verdict rendered by Judge Walker. It highlights many arguments - morally, socially, politically, ethically, and economically for both sides of the debate - but, it's pretty clear that the conservative view has no rational basis whatsoever. When we refer to "gay", we are really talking about erotics and sexual praxis. Praxis is very complicated, so I won't explain it here, but... anyway, the end result is still the same. Not a choice & the union should be permitted by law.

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  24. nice post, good job

    + follower:)

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  25. Great post! Was a really good read! thanks for sharing!

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